#17 JULIA KULPA 2.0 | Oooo Hyrox!!

Back by popular demand, I'm joined once again by Julia Kulpa. This time we chatted about her Hyrox shenanigans, the challenges of both training blocks and race day, for both singles and doubles. Despite the fact we work in the same office together, I was really fascinated and learned a lot from what Julia had to say and I hope you enjoy listening as much as I did!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Right, we're joined by Julia again, around two. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:05

I'm alright, thanks for you.

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Yeah, really good, thank you. Um, so the last time we had you here, we talked about running ultra marathons. So if you've not listened to that one yet, then what are you doing? Listen to it. Um, really fascinating. But yeah, we're gonna talk about Hyrux today, which is another sport that you do. So I know. Um so to anyone who doesn't know what Hyrux is, what is the best way you would describe it?

SPEAKER_00 0:35

It's adult PE basically, isn't it? No, um it's like it's like a kind of like a I have the classic circuit training, really. So it's a by one one by eight.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

One by eight kilometre runs. Um so you do a kilometre, and then in between each corner you do a station. So the stations are um 1k skiog, um sled push, sled pull, uh burpee brawn jumps, rowing, farmers carry, um walking lunges and roll bowls. So you would do a run station, run station, run station.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Sounds easy, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah, it's really easy.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Right, we'll go back to the start. So when did I think Hyrux has become popular in the last like maybe two or three years? It's actually going on quite a lot longer. But how did you sort of discover it and sort of start getting into it?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Do you know what? I actually can't remember for the life of me how I found it, but I remember just coming across it. So it was probably something like Instagram or TikTok or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

And I was like, oh, that looks quite cool. Um, and I've had a bit of a research to it, but like not too much. And I sent it to Holly, my friend, and I was like, oh, do you fancy doing this? There's one in Manchester, and I think it was January 2024? Three. Four size. Four, I think four, yeah, something like that. Um, and she was like, Yeah, no worries, like, but we didn't actually really know what it was. Um now if you've done a Hyrux, which you have. Yeah, it's bloody hard. Like, yeah, people laugh at it and think, like, say, like, oh yeah, it's like adult pee, or it's like BTEC CrossFit. And like, yeah, it probably is, but it's also really hard.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Yeah, definitely remove the word B tech, because I imply it's easy. It really is.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

It wasn't easy. So um we did our first one, we did a mixed women's doubles in Manchester. Um and it was really nice because we got like matching outfits and we thought, oh, it'll be a nice day out. It was far from you know, we did really enjoy it to be fair, um, but it was very humbling. Yeah, you know, we we didn't really know, we kind of trained for it, but like we didn't really know how to train for it. Um and we got to start line, and the first thing we said to each other was, right, we're gonna go slow for the first part. What do we do? We absolutely shoot out the pen. And I saw a video of me on the ski egg from that um high rocks in Manchester, and I look mental, like I look psychotic, and I think we were one of the first ones to get to the skiers on that one, and that's when I knew we'd really like fucked in. Um, but yeah, so we like I think like the first few stations we were like, oh, this is mitten, and then you just hit a wall and you're like, I'm gassed, like we completely gassed ourselves out. And I remember finishing the therpees and Holly standing like next to like one of the stations, and she was like, We just stopped for a second, I'm gonna be sick. And I was like, Oh, well, we could just finish here if you want to. And we we did we didn't really we actually, you know, we didn't stop, we finished the whole thing, and like we looked at each other and we're like, never doing that ever again, like it's just not, it's not for us, it's horrible. Yeah, exactly. And then I think the next day we woke up and we were like, Oh, actually, it wasn't too bad, like we'd probably do it again. It's like yeah, type two fun, isn't it? Well at the time, you're thinking this is probably the worst thing I'm ever doing, and then you kind of go back and think, actually, that was quite funny, that was quite funny. Like, I enjoyed this part, and you don't remember the bits that were hard, I don't think. So that was my first one, Manchester.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Yeah, very good. So, um, when you did your first one, and then you entered your second one, and then you started training for it. What kind of things did you do differently in terms of your preparation?

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah, so one yeah, one thing with higher-ups is you have to get used to running on heavy legs because you finish a station, you're back to a 1k run. Now, 1k doesn't seem like far, but running 1k when you've just done sled push is really hard. Yeah, but like your heart rate is up, up and down, up and down, up and down, especially with things like burpees, where you are up, you know, you kind of go from the floor, you jump, you go up from the floor, and your heart rate. I remember my heart rate being about 200, and I thought, well, this is it, I'm gonna have a heart attack. So running on heavy legs, doing quite a bit of speed work, yeah. Um, and actually doing the stations that I knew I was not very good at, like wall balls and sled pull, because I'd always stick to things that I was actually alright at, which were burpees or skiing, and I'd do them in my sessions when I knew I could do them, and then I thought actually, I'm not gonna get any better by just you know staying in my comfort zone. I need to get out of my comfort zone and do stuff that I actually just don't really enjoy and I'm pretty bad at, and then you'll you start getting better at those, don't you? So yeah, I think I think that was kind of another thing that I've done.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Actually, going back to the first one you've been in Manchester, were there any stations that you thought not would not be easy, but you were a lot harder than you expected them to be? Because for me personally, when I did my first one, definitely sled push, sled pull, and wall balls, I thought would be my three best ones, and they actually ended up being the three worst ones.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

I can I can definitely agree on the wall bowls. Well, it's just a squat and throwing the ball, but A, it's the last station that you do, and you do a hundred of them. But actually, in the Manchester one, um, that was still the time where women had to do 75, not 100.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Oh, I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Yeah, so they first started with 75, and then they um equaled them with men's, but obviously the weights were a little bit lower, so it's four kilos for women's open and six kilos for men's open. Yeah, but I thought I thought four kilos, that's now, and it was it fell like the heaviest ball ever, and it got to a point where I was so tired I actually dropped the ball on one of the judges, it fell on his head. Um, Josie was really close to me as well. Um, so wall balls was definitely one. Trying to think. Um, one that I thought, oh, I don't know how I'm gonna do, but did better than I thought I would was Farmer's Carrie.

SPEAKER_02 7:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Farmer's Carry has now become one of my favourite and strongest ones, to be fair. Um, but my least favourite one will probably always be wall balls.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

I hate them.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Awful, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Yeah, you feel like you're there for about an hour just doing wall balls, you're not. But it's like the judges can be absolute asses with your depth and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Yeah, you're practically sat on the floor. Oh, not low enough.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Yeah. Right, I'm literally gonna fall. So yeah, yeah, wall balls is my least favourite one.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

So what um so yeah, what was the what was the second one, or where was the second one that you entered?

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Nice?

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Yeah, that was another open one with Holly.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

So that was sort of 2024.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

September, October, I want to say.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Yeah, rings the bell, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Yeah, one thing that we didn't realise was that it's gonna be really hot because south of Prance, but we thought, oh, it's October, it's it'd be cold. It wasn't, it was like 30 degrees.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Was that in an indoor arena or was it stadium? Right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

It was indoors, but it was just horribly, horribly warm. But once again, we did women's open and we did better on that one in terms of time. We kind of knew how to pace ourselves a little bit. Um, but Holly really wasn't well, she had a chest infection at the time, which high rubps and chest infection really don't go very well. No, but because like through those few months I've gotten quite a bit fitter in terms of like running and stuff, I was kind of trying to pace, and you know, we we had to keep which was fine, but we had to keep slowing down. Yeah, you know, when you slow down, it throws you off as well.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah, it like knocks you out of your river maybe.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

And I remember when we got to sled pool and Holly just could not move the sled. Relatable, and like I remember like doing majority of it, which once again absolutely fine, but then we left the sled pool station, and I was absolutely fucked. Yeah, I was like, we're on our third station, and I think I'm gonna have a heart attack in a minute. Five more to go, honestly. But then, like, once again, farmers carry brilliant. Like, I flew through farmers carry. I think we got third best time through the whole of the whole competition in Farmers Carry. It's as if someone put a rocket up my butt, but then like we kind of figured out that each of us have a different strength, so like Holly's really good at rowing. I'm crap, I'm not very good. Like, I'll do it, but I'm not I'm not very good. Well, she was like an absolute unit on it. Um, you know, things like her sled push was really good, she was a lot more efficient with a sled push. Um, walking lunges, brilliant. Like, she was so good, she was up down, up down. Whereas I thought my butts were gonna fall off. So we kind of started like realizing that we've got our strengths and weaknesses, really, which works. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Absolutely. Do you feel like um so you've done a few abroad? Do you feel like is there is there like a difference that you've noticed? Could be anything between the ones you do abroad and the ones you do over in the UK in terms of like how they're run or how the judges are, or anything like that, or even atmosphere or I mean I've done like two UK was I've done Manchester and Cardi, and I feel like the judges were worse abroad.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Okay, as in a lot more strict, right? I'm not sure why that was. I think it's because they thought you were English and so they thought we'll just do you over really um but I like them abroad, but I don't know if that's just because you're abroad and it's basically like a mini holiday, like it's you just embedded your high rocks into a holiday, which I really like about high rocks. Like you can go, you can make like a bit of a trip out of it, you know, and you go to like nice places, don't you? Like I mean, you know, I've done what have I done Warsaw, Rotterdam, Nice, and it's like you just go away on like a little trip and then you just do a random high rock.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

And it's not like it takes all day, you know, you're there for like an hour and a half or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Um I do prefer the ones abroad, but I think once again it's kind of that vibe, yeah. And I don't know if this is gonna sound really cocky, but also like you're traveling to go and pop peek somewhere, and I know it doesn't matter because no one knows who you are, but it's like, oh, this is quite cool. Like I'm going abroad to do like a sporting event.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

It's sick, it is cool, it's cool, yeah, definitely. It's definitely, yeah, it's definitely a flex.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Yeah, I think the worst part is when the judges start shouting at you in a different language, and you're like you've no idea.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

What they're saying.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Like we were like we were in France, and on the wall bowls, she kept saying something, and I was like, I don't know what she's saying, and like she was really annoying me. And I was like, Look, I don't know what you're saying to me, and then she couldn't speak English, so I was like, Well, we're getting nowhere here because I don't know what you want me to do.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Well, she shouted merely.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I don't obviously I don't know, but um like wee wee. I mean, French people were were rude, are rude. Um, like even on the in the competition, you knew which ones the French ones were, they were horrible, like they were just shoving everyone out of the way. Um, but like Rotterdam, Rotterdam was a really nice one, people were lovely. Okay, I guess the Dutch were just just nice, really. Um, it just depends, really. Depends what wave you get. Because I don't you you probably have realized this. People who do high rox have massive egos. Ego design.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

We've talked obviously about ultra marathons previously. There's a definite noticeable difference between the people who do ultras, people who do high roxes. It's like chalk and cheese, like two are opposite very, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Yeah, ultraso you've got like really nice people, everyone's really supportive. And in Hyrox, it's like everyone looks at you as if you've just shit on the doorstep. Like, I don't know, they're just rude. Everyone's really rude. Like, you'll get a couple, like um the most recent one we've done was Cardiff, and me and uh Holly did pro doubles, so pro doubles is basically um men's weights, it's not, it's really not it's the same thing, you do the same stations, same runs, but the weights are heavier, so the men's open weights, and we thought, like, for A, it's really scary because we're now probably surrounded by you know women who are absolutely brilliant at this, and we've only done the pro doubles because you know the open um weights were sold out, okay. So all that was left was a pro doubles, and we thought, oh yeah, we've got that. It was awful, it no, it was really fun, but it was really hard. But like, you know, on the start line, we thought everyone was gonna be really cocky, and actually, all the girls were like, Oh, can you go in front of us because we're gonna be slower than you? And everyone was actually really nice, all right. Oh, that's like and all the girls were like, Oh, good luck, have fun, have fun. But half about halfway through the race, um, the men's double men's pros started, and I'm not joking you, they were shoving the girls out the way. Oh, really? They were all topless, obviously, from the start. Um, and all of a sudden, like this massive wave of these huge guys just started running at us, but they wouldn't be like, Oh, sorry, sorry, like I'm on your left, I'm on your left, or whatever. They'd literally like one guy like shoved this girl and she fell over. Oh, that's like if that was me, if I shoved someone just by accident, I'd stop and be like, Oh my god, are you alright? Yeah, no, you couldn't care less. Like you shoved it, she fell over and just carried on. Like, I understand you're faster, you've just died, so you're a lot fresher than us, but you're not in the Olympics.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

No, you're not. Like just because you're fast doesn't make you any more important. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Everyone's here like for their own reasons.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

You don't need to act like that, it's really embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yeah, definitely. I think from my own experience, I didn't see anything like that happen. Um well I'll say I've done two high-roxies, I've done one and one and one and a third. Um, yeah, I would say from my own experience, both Birmingham and Cardiff, I would say 25% of people are absolutely sound really nice, really supportive. Um the other 75% kind of like what you just said, just like a bit rude, and just egos, I think. Big egos massively.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

I mean, I don't know if this is this is true, but a lot of people say that people who do well at high rocks are people who weren't very good at other like sport disciplines and stuff like that, um, but now they found something that they're good at, they think they're God's work. Okay, and even if they are like fine, it is impressive. Like when I see some people's times, you know, at 49 minutes, what? How have you done this in 49 minutes? Like my runs take that long.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Yeah, without the without the stations, yeah, without the stations and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

But that doesn't make you better than someone who does it in an hour and 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Yeah, you you finished it, they finished it. Just be nice, and actually fair play to those people, because you know, it it takes balls to step on that start line. That start line's awful.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Of course it does.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

There was this Red Bull tent thing, yeah, really loud music playing, it's a countdown, all of a sudden everyone just goes and it's scary.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

It is, it's very intimidating. I I would say when I was in that starting pen at Birmingham year and a half ago, most nervous I've ever been by a country mile.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Your heart's in your throat.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Yeah, and I hadn't even started moving yet. Just a disclaimer, by the way, when I did Birmingham, I did do it topless. Not not because I think I'm built like it because it was in the NEC, it was roasting when I was stood just watching.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

But when I did Cardiff, I did wear a vest, so I've kind of like redeemed.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Stadiums are cooler though.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Yes, because it was in the Millennium Stadium, or Principality Stadium, yeah, it was a lot cooler, even with the roof up.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

So much nicer. Because the one in Warsaw was on in a stadium as well, and I thought this is like bearable, it's nice, and it was hot outside.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

And I was like, oh, like I'm not sweating like an absolute pig. And Cardiff was the same. Um, but still, it's just like a you it is you like to qualify for for high rules, you need to take your top on that.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

What you know what wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being at Wembley one day.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

It probably it's it's growing huge. I mean it's all over the world now, it's in every continent, I think. It will be you know, there's like Brazil. Um, they're doing a cruise one now as well.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I was gonna bring that up actually. What do you think of that? Because I've saw it got advertised like a massive high rocks cruise. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Well, that's that's really funny because what people are gonna do with their garments and the GPFs.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Because on the um, yeah, because um, say if it's like a run, it'll look like yeah, it'll be funny, won't it?

SPEAKER_00 18:34

I mean it's a good idea. I mean, I think that's brilliant. I mean, I'm sure that I mean the person who's come up with high rocks. It was some balling.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

It was some German guy who used to be a professional athlete in some sport. Him and another person too.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

The concept is very simple, but such a simple concept has made an absolute bank for them.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Yeah, just the marketing and the investment they've got.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Yeah, you know, like they're sponsored by Puma.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Yeah, concept too.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Like, yeah, absolutely. But like if you remember, like a few years ago, Puma wasn't like a cool brand, was it? It was like Nike Addidas, New Balance.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

It was like B Tech Addie. It wasn't Puma.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Because of Pyrox now, Puma is like a cool brand. People are getting sponsored by Puma and like you know, the buzzing. I'd be I'd love to be sponsored by Puma.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Very often Puma is listening to this. Please sponsor Julia so she can. Yeah, actually, not Starbucks, but yeah, Coster, but not um a matcher. Not a matcher, because that's like drinking soil. But um I've lost my train of thought now. Um I did have a question in the head, I've completely forgotten it, so um let's just ramble on a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 19:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Um what um This is good, isn't it? What's your favourite film from Costa apart from a matcha?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Uh coconut latte.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Coconut latte, that's what I have.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yeah, it's nice and it slaps.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

One of the questions I was gonna ask you actually, um what um is it kind of in terms of like when you're having your nutrition before your high rocks, is it kind of similar to when you prepare for an ultra in terms of how much you eat or carb loading or not really types of foods we wouldn't really carb load for because it's like an hour and a half of yeah, it's high.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

I'd have more food, yeah, but I wouldn't have as like I'd probably just have a little bit more than I usually would on a daily basis, I think.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Yeah, but not like loads.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Not loads, um, just because I don't need it for like five plus hours, I don't need that, you know. Um those carbohydrates and energy stores, but I also want to have to have a I want to have a little bit more, um, you know, to kind of perform better. But also with high roxes, you know, with ultras you always start in the morning, don't you? It's kind of like between what seven and nineam, whereas with high rocks, you don't know, and I've done loads of different starts, you know. I've done anywhere from um I think the first one we did was like just before nine, so you have your breakfast and be ready to go.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Whereas like Cardiff, we didn't start until six. Awful, which is awful. Yeah, I prefer to do things in the morning and then you know I can have the whole day. But but with like 6 pm starts, you need to like really figure out your nutrition because you don't want to my stomach is sensitive as anything, yeah. So I don't want to have anything that would throw my stomach off and then potentially suffer during the race.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Um, but it's kind of like awkward, but like in Warsaw, for example, my start was 2 pm. So I had breakfast, and then I was like, Well, I'm gonna have lunch, but I don't want to have anything huge because I don't want to be sick.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

And because it is high intensity, like you don't want things sitting on your stomach, do you?

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Especially when he's doing burpee brawl jobs.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Well yeah, you throw up, wouldn't you? Um but yeah, I wouldn't have nowhere near as much as I would for an ultra marathon. I think you know there's probably not that much need for it. Like obviously you would have a little bit more, but I wouldn't have more than like if I were to run like 16 to 21k, I'd probably have the same amount, really. Um I've not yet tried, I know people take gels during high rocks, like on the rowers, a lot of people take, and I've not tried that yet, but a lot of people say it really helps with your second part.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

But once again, because I'm like, oh well, to me, taking a gel has always just been like long distance running, yeah, rather than like a high rocks, which is high intensity, like a circuit. Um, but like I've seen like loads of like actual high rocks athletes take it, and I'm like, oh well if they're doing it, it must work.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

What's your opinion on certain rules, regs, and etiquette? So got a few examples off the top of my head. Um was it Warsaw where a women's pro doubles they got they got a time penalty for littering energy gel rappers? Yeah, so do you think firstly, do you sorry, do you agree with it? Do you think it's like too harsh of a penalty, or what's your kind of overall thought on it?

SPEAKER_00 23:30

So I think if we're so they've inputted those roles, fine, no worries. Um, and I think it's it's fair enough because there's bins, like if there's bins, use the bins, yeah, put them in your pocket or put them in, I don't know, women's sports bra, whatever. There's no need to throw it on the floor. I mean, it is quite disrespectful when there's a judge and you just throw it and they have to pick it up. Like, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I know you're a pro athlete, but also be a bit respectful, yeah. Of course, but also, so the the girl who chucked it, she's like a professional runner, she runs like half marrow things. I think she's got the England record for half marrow.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Oh, yeah, yes, and somebody else.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

And she like her so she's the one who threw that um gel on the floor at um at the rowing station. Yeah, she got the penalty, and it was quite a whopping penalty. I think it was like a two-minute penalty, which in Hyrugs is huge.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Night and day, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Like that actually stopped them from qualifying for the worlds. They went from second place to ninth because of two minutes, yeah. And true, they're after on the floor, got a penalty, but there was other girls who threw them around the course. Now, to me, throwing them around the course, like you're running around constantly, is much worse. Whereas with those rowers, no one's gonna go back to them, or you've done you do them once and you come out. Um, but her excuse was well, in you know, long distance running or like any sort of running races, you can just throw the gels on the floor. So, why wouldn't I be able to do it? And I'm like, Yeah, fine, but it's a different sport, different rules, yeah. You wouldn't, you know, do a certain thing in a certain sport because you do it in your main sport. I mean, each each sport has its own rules, that's that's that. But I think if a rule applies to one person, it has to apply to everyone, yeah. But they've because both of her and her partner are from like running backgrounds, like they've not got the rules kind of in the head, you know, they've they weren't very strict with things that they were doing, even like the movements on like burpees and stuff, and and they kept getting penalties through a lot of um quite a few races, so the judges were on them like hawks.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

So like they had so much like pressure on them, whereas other girls wouldn't. Okay, which I thought was a bit unfair, yeah. Um, but in terms of like open races, like me doing it, you doing it, like someone, you know, just a random day-to-day person doing it, you know, like like we said on wall bowls, you know, where they're like, Oh, your depth isn't good enough, and I'm like, Look, I'm not here to be any world record.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Yeah, exactly. Leave me alone. When I did um when I did Burpee Brawl Jumps in Birmingham, so I'm doing it, and then as I've landed, the feet have sort of shuffled forwards a tiny little bit. Yeah, not wasn't doing it on purpose, it was just kind of like momentum. And the judge was like screaming at me, she was saying, like, stop shuffling forwards. I'm kind of like kind of what you said. I'm like, look, I'm not here to like win it, win the damn thing. I'm just here to do it for myself. It really doesn't matter. I think like the rules should be stricter in the pros, it should be consistent. That's what the judges need to do. They need to be consistent, but then also anyone who enters it, it's their responsibility to know the rules.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

I think it kind of shows though that how it's a new spot, though.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Yeah. Um sorry, I'm still listening.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Um it it yeah, it's kind of a a new spot and it it it still has its teething issues and and kind of I mean that's one of the issues is like the inconsistency with rules.

SPEAKER_05 27:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Um but there's loads of different things. There was just one in I don't know if it was New York or something, where the race got cancelled because of weather conditions. And I think people found out like the morning of or something. Oh god, so they cancelled certain um races, but other races kind of went carried on. Oh, okay, and people like didn't get their money back and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

And it was just a bit like yeah, you know, don't help themselves about the gas.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

So it's like the obviously, I mean it's at the end of the day, house is a business.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Of course it is.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

It's a huge business that's doing very well. I mean, if you look at ticket prices, so when it first well, when me and we did our first race in Manchester, which was what three years ago, two years ago, I don't know, whatever it was. I think a ticket it was still expensive, it was like £80 for a single ticket. It's now £130.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

I was gonna say it's gone well up, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 28:17

What the hell? That's more money than certain ultras.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

But when you s when you see people comment, like, oh yeah, they're just money making, like, well, yeah, it is the business. Another um, I can't remember which high rocks it was, but it was quite maybe six months ago or so. Um, there was one where um trying to think, I think it might have been all of the there were they had to people had to cue for the wall ball state. We're at Berlin, had to cue for the wall ball. So some um I can't even remember her name, but an influencer wrote a big War and Peace um Instagram post, like, oh, this is ridiculous, blah blah blah. I think what Hyrux had done is they'd paused everybody's time for waiting.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

And then she was kind of like, you know, like when you you cross the finish line, you get your picture taken from a big screen of your time, and she was like, Oh, it ruined the picture. So I was kind of thinking, like, again, if you're in the open, it doesn't matter. If you're in the pros, I get it, you'd be human because it'd be like, imagine if you say Vault runs 100 metres and the timing thing don't work or whatever, or it stops, yeah. But it doesn't matter to me. I'd I'd be glad of resting for more boss, really.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

I'm gonna get rest before the worst part, but yeah, once again, I think this show is the sort of people that Hyrule does attract a lot of the time. It I don't know where these egos come from, but these people genuinely think they're in the Olympics, yeah, but they're they're just rude. Like I've I've seen people scream at judges and stuff, and I'm thinking it's bloody Hyrule!

SPEAKER_01 30:05

I used to scream at referees when I played football, but that was different.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

It's just a bit embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Didn't you tell me you saw someone screaming at their own partner?

SPEAKER_00 30:15

Yeah, this was in Manchester. Me and Holly were like a pair that we would really encourage each other, like if you know, there was times where she would have to slow down and she'd be like, Oh, I'm so sorry, and I'd be like, No, it's fine, like I'm not asked. Like, we're here just for a bit of fun. It's a meaning, we're doing something together, and it's an it's a brilliant achievement. An experience, and I remember this. There was a there was a you know, I don't know if they were like gym friends or actual outside of you know, friends, you know, just what whatever they were, sisters I couldn't care less, you don't speak to anyone like that. No, and she was like, move to her own partner, like why why are you doing it so slow? And I was like, What the hell? Like, I'm pretty sure that just must have broken the friendship. And do you know what that actually reminds me? It was yeah, I don't know if you saw that video where there was a couple, like a man and a woman, uh they did a Hyrux, and she passed out on the wall balls, and a fella carried on. Yes, I saw that without yeah, wow, and he was like, Oh well, she would have wanted me to finish. No, I'm pretty sure she would have wanted you to actually care that she's just passed out, she's just passed out.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

You absolutely know this is that sounds really horrible.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

He looked like a typical high roxer, yeah. And and like she literally dropped on the floor, he finished and ran through the finish line, yeah, and people like the audience were like, What the hell, mate? Like, come back, yeah. Like, why are you running off? She's just passed out and she's she she's not awake. What if she dropped? I mean, this is very like you know, extreme. What she dropped dead, yeah. What if she had like cardiac arrest? Oh, yeah, if it was like, but then you see like really nice um videos, like elderly people, like you know, Hyrux is like marketed as like a it's it's a race for everyone or a spot for everyone, whatever. And there was like an 89-year-old man doing it, and you know, he walked all the runs, and you know, he did it, but he did it. Yeah, I think that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Classic, it's amazing, yeah, it's brilliant. I can do that when I'm 89.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Oh my gosh, yeah. I saw you know a couple doing it, and the woman was pregnant, and she must have been quite far from I thought, wow, like that's really nice. So, you do see really nice things, you know. You see girls in matching outfits and like little skirts and and whatever, and it's like, oh, this is it's nice, yeah. It's it's nice, like it's just wholesome, but then some people just really spoil it, and it's actually those people who are really good. And I'm like, shouldn't you be setting an example of you know that this should be like a nice supportive environment?

SPEAKER_01 33:10

And it just it isn't like there's definitely like um it's a shame that these kind of things happen, but hopefully it'll kind of become more and more I mean, already is mainstream, but you get more and more like normal people do it if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Do you think kind of the way gyms are at the minute, do you think you are getting like high rox type gyms open up and stuff like that? Do you think that will become because my thinking is like you get lots of things in the fitness industry that are kind of like a flash in the pan, they're popular for six months to a year and then no one get no one gives a shit anymore. Hyrox is definitely here to stay long term. We'll still be doing high roxins in 20 years' time. Yeah. So do you think more gyms should become more high roxy if that makes sense?

SPEAKER_00 34:01

I think it's quite a nice thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Um still a sp by the way.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

No, it's okay. I think it's quite a nice thing, you know, to kind of if people are quite kind of lost with the training and stuff, I think higher is quite a nice thing to do because it's like it's running and it's like a bit lifting, a bit of functional training, essentially. It's everything in ones, in one, isn't it? Um, I mean there's a lot of gymnals that are uh that are kind of like Hyrox gyms anyway, yeah. And they run like Hyrux classes, etc. But once again, um you know, I've never been to one, but people are saying they're becoming quite clicky. Okay, or you know, you get like paired with like a random person that could be either you know better or worse than you, um not worse, but like you know, they're not as well, yeah. They're a different ability level, and um people like take it way too seriously. So I think, yeah, it's a really good idea, but I think there needs to be a different way of kind of going about it, I guess. Okay. I think it's gonna be like the new CrossFit to be fair, yeah. Like CrossFit gyms, and I think CrossFit gyms are there's also gonna be the kind of equivalent of of that, but they're gonna be Higher Ox gyms, and I think it's a brilliant idea to be honest. I think it gets people, you know, it if people can't find their niche in in in kind of like fitness and sport and stuff, I think higher is quite a good one.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

I think it's um yeah, I totally agree with that. I think lots of gyms where it's fog standard, you've got a cardio section, a free weight section, resistance machines, people just turn up and do their own thing, which is you know, that's good. Yeah, but I think more and more gyms are or should become more about sort of a community type hub. Definitely. And I think something like IROX would be really good for that because it's such a hard thing to train for. So when people do it together, it creates that social aspect, it improves people's mental health, yeah, builds those relationships, but then also you're kind of pushing each other on, and you just naturally get fitter and fitter, and that's gotta be better than not doing anything.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

And if you think about it, most gyms will have a ski, a rower, um, a sled push. Yeah, you can obviously do sandbag lunges, most gyms have sandbags, um, wall balls, like these are all things that you can probably do in a standard gym anyway. You've got treadmills, you can do your runs at the treadmills. I know a lot of gyms would do their runs actually outside.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

Um, but I think it is quite nice. And obviously, if you've got like a head coach and other coaches, and they can um lead the sessions and create like uh workouts and stuff, you can take inspiration and do them yourself then and things like that. And once again, it's that community, and people might make friends and you know, people might actually meet someone they would want to do a high rocks with, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Um, and it might just get people into actual fitness and and you know, because a lot of people are, you know, people that prefer to do classes rather than go to a gym and try and buy themselves. Yeah, that's like another class if you like.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Of course it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Which is which is nice.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Absolutely. Um, what would you say? I'm gonna ask some other questions that I've prepared, that Ryan's prepared. What would you say is your favourite thing about high rocks, and then also what would you say is the thing you would want improving the most or changed the most, if that makes sense?

SPEAKER_00 37:20

I think um my favourite thing. My favourite thing is actually so I've done I've only done one solo race, and as much as I really enjoyed that because all I could count on was myself, yeah. Like I think doing it with someone is just so fun. Like I said, me and Holly have done a few races together now, and even though you know there's gonna be parts where you struggle or they struggle, I think it's such like a nice bonding experience because you see each other in absolute pits of hell, yeah, and it's nice because like I don't know, you you get to pick each other up and like motivate each other, and it's such a nice feeling when your best friends are going, oh, you're doing so amazing, and like it's really nice, and you know, finishing that you know, crossing that finish line with with someone that you care for, and like you know, your your friend, your partner, whatever, such a nice feeling, yeah. You know, and like I said, it's kind of like you don't remember the bad parts of that race, you remember the the nice parts. Um, so I think like yeah, the fact that you know you get to do it with with someone, it's not just like a lonely, lonely sport. I mean it can't, yeah, you you can make it, but I would prefer to actually do doubles than do a solo. I think for a solo it's kind of like proving something to yourself, yeah. Whereas with a double, I think it's always kind of like hey, oh, it's like a nice, nice day out, really.

SPEAKER_05 38:38

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 38:38

The the the kind of thing that I think needs improving is is probably the ticket system. I know it's kind of like it's like a you go into a queue um and you're like immediately 8,000 trillion million in in queue. Yeah, but because some um gyms they're like high rocks gyms, and a lot of them, these people get priority, and by the time these people have got priority, there's literally nothing left.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Um I understand it's kind of like it you can't I don't know how else they would kind of go about it, but you know, with some races, you just literally cannot get into them whatsoever, and I don't really know how it works and how some people are getting in every single time, you know. There'll be a release at 1 pm. You go on to the website, bang on, gone, and it's gone. And I'm kind of like, well, how?

SPEAKER_01 39:32

I think so. Obviously, you've got your higher ups affiliated gyms, they have to have some sort of a perk, but it should be like maybe a maximum number of spaces per gym. Yeah, so don't give it to every single member because you might have a hundred people, a member of that gym. Have it like say five people or ten people per gym. It's a little bit like uh running clubs and marathons. I think each running club gets like maybe two or three spaces for like the London Marathon, for example. Um whereas like you know, there might be a hundred people at a running club, but if they all got that, then yeah, people like me who don't who are not part of a running club would never get in. So, yeah, probably something like that, but yeah, definitely the high box.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

And I think just like the rules, like make it consistent, you know. Um, even for like opens, like you know, I've seen loads of times where I would do something and I wouldn't get picked up on it, but someone would do the same thing and they would, yeah. Or like Lawsaw, where I was literally like, even on the photos I looked, I would basically sat on the floor and the judge was like not low enough, not low enough, and the girl next to me was not even hitting parallel, and she didn't get picked up once.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, that's annoying.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Like, yeah, I don't really I'm not that asked, but also it's a bit annoying because why am I getting picked up on it and someone else isn't? It's just a bit like well, it's it just makes no sense, does it?

SPEAKER_01 40:53

So right, Ryan's sent questions. Now I've not looked at them yet, by the way. I bet he has. I actually haven't looked, so this could be interesting, and then I've wrote some others as well. So let me just go on here. Okay, right. He sent three questions in. Um this is Ryan, he's a massive guy. He was on with me a few weeks ago. Listen to that one as well. I'll get him on again. Pro bodybuilder future pro bodybuilder, and um right, right. So, number one, how do you approach your runs in the rain compared to sunny weather? Is what is his first question.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

I'll complain about it, yeah, and then I'll just get it done. I think sometimes actually like you have to lock in a bit more when it's raining, and it just kind it's sometimes I sometimes prefer running in the rain, actually. I don't like to start off in the rain, but a little bit further down, like five, six K in.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

I'm like, oh, this is actually quite full, definitely it cools you down.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Like I overheat when I run massively. Um, but in the rain, it's kind of like it just cools you down a little bit, especially when it's warm. Um, I I really don't mind running in the rain. Obviously, it's like I prefer rain to wind. I hate running in the wind. Um it slows you down, but like with with warmer um weather, I'd always just take water with me, really. Um, just because I don't want to like dehydrate. It depends on the distance of the run as well. Um, but no matter what, I will always just run in a sports bar and shorts.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:34

It could be bolted outside, but I'm not even that bothered.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

We live in Yorkshire.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Yeah, it's alright.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

Right. Ryan's second question: what's the hardest part of Hyrocks that you've experienced?

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Um gosh, I don't know. I need to think there's a lot of hard parts.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

The whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

The whole thing, yeah. Um I think it's leaving a station and going into the run.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Any station transition period, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Especially things like like going from a burpees, burpee broad jumps into a run. I feel like hypertension is hitting me. Um, yeah, not hypertension, hypotension.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

Um lower blood pressure.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Yeah, lower blood pressure. And yeah, I think I think transitioning from that kind of elevating your heart rate up quite a lot to then bringing it back down and then up and down, up and down. I think the heart rate is probably the worst part.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

Yeah, 100%, then just controlling your breathing, I think.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Right, his third question is I'll just read it word for word. Thoughts on paddle question mark Is it woke? And then brackets, it fucking is.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

It isn't, right? So I I've only played paddle like not even. handful of times and I think it's brilliant. I think it's I don't understand why people now are slate in paddle. Like it's actually like it's a nice social thing to be honest. Like you know we've played um like with with other people and stuff and it's just nice. It's a bit of a laugh.

SPEAKER_05 44:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

Obviously there's people who will take it really seriously and and you know but like it's just a bit of a back and forth back and forth rally. It's people who can't play technically games but I think it's really fun.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I'd never played it I would like to try it definitely looks fun.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

Absolutely you know like if you know like with socializing most people socialise by going out for like a drink or anything to see with like alcohol. Yeah. And I think that's quite a nice alternative really like going out for a paddle like especially when it's like nice outside it gets people out in fresh air a lot of paddle courts are outside. Yeah you get to socialise a bit and you get a bit of movement in it's a win-win situation really definitely not work yeah I'm not I'm not on that board either I I can't play test to save my life so maybe so maybe paddle is perfect for me we'll have to yeah we'll have to get against it right Ryan will have to come with us as well I think it's genuinely such a nice thing to do let's do it yeah right I've um wrote down a few sort of quick player questions two part question first what's the biggest mistakes people make when training for a high rocks and on race day and on race day training for high rocks um I think the biggest mistake is people kind of once again stick to a comfort zone um and this is what I've done like they will do the stations over and over that they know they're good at but miss out on the stations that they find quite hard yeah and kind of think oh well adrenaline's gonna push me through on race day it bloody won't it won't you will be absolutely screwed and I think it's just all the mistakes that I make that I've seen quite a lot and a lot of people actually like change their workouts a lot so like they'll build a circuit one week and then they'll do a completely different one the next week and then a completely different one whereas you have to be quite consistent okay I think um it's like you know running you you you're consistent with that or like in the gym when you're like doing hypertrophy training you would have the same exercise as week in week out yeah you know to get progressive overload it is the same concept so I'm not sure why people keep changing the the the the workouts really um definitely that on race day once again something that I've done quite a few times I'll absolutely belly out of the pen. Yeah you know you kind of think well I feel good on this run why would I feel any worse on my seventh run? You will you'll gas yourself out I think that's the biggest you know when you're in that tunnel the adrenaline is is you know people are getting really hyped and really gassed and stuff and you you know you're out and and you're out of the pen and you think this is brilliant like I'm gonna you know you do your first station um sorry first run first station you might do the second one really fast and all of a sudden you're kind of like Christ I can't breathe anymore. That reminds me actually when you did warsaur singles I was I had the like the live high flew out I saw like run one four minutes twenty or whatever it was I was like oh good set off fast and then the second one I think was like maybe five minutes something and then you were consistent after that they had oxyadrenaline instead of all the pre-reased you know all the girls were like you know get really hyped and all the girls flew out I thought I'm not flying like I'm not gonna be like left behind screw that um but like the one I did in Rotterdam I did mixed doubles in Rotterdam and so that was the fastest race that I've done which was one hour two minutes and I hated every single second of that it was awful like I didn't enjoy it I was chasing around I think I was there was not a single one kilometre that was under like 440 and I was dying and I remember being on the rower and I think I got 300 meters and I was like I literally am gonna fall off this row and have a heart attack I can't do this anymore. Yeah but like yeah it's a brilliant time but so what if I had a crap time well not crap but like I can't remember thinking oh I feel great like I'm having a really nice time yeah all I can remember is chasing around being on the stations absolutely gassed like I wouldn't be able to do that by myself but because my partner was much fitter than I was like pulled us through but like I was just I don't also feel like I didn't do enough on the stations like I did the burpees like I flew through the burpees by myself all the other stations I was just fair okay really yeah it wasn't 5050 so maybe if you do like if anyone's looking at entering a double trying it was someone who's like similar ability level yeah unless you are someone who is genuinely just very very ambitious and they do want to get pulled around but you will suffer. Yeah so for the like enjoyment side of it's someone yeah and I think doing it with like a friend or a partner a partner that's nice as well like you know that once again I've seen partners that have like you know been pulling their girlfriends around and being quite horrible to me these girlfriends are like what e dogs tongues hanging out like it's it it's Jerry yeah do it for someone who's like similar fitness level and someone who you probably actually like that's why but it helps doesn't it right next one just dead basic what's your most difficult station wall balls it will be always wall balls.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

If you could change one thing about high rocks what would it be?

SPEAKER_00 49:51

Wall balls no um change them to tennis balls maybe I don't know actually I don't think I'd I won't change the layout of it to be fair it's a very good like all the stations as much as I hate wall balls yeah I think it's quite a good addition and I think because it's a license last station you can see the finish line it's it's it's good. I don't think I've changed anything it is very well organised and the stations are quite good because you get a bit of like um cardiovascular stuff of you know your ski eggs rowers and you get a bit of strength stuff of you know your palm's carries and and you and your side pushers I think it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Amazing right next one I'll unlock this again um if you could go to any city in the world to do a Hyrox and money is no object where would you want to go?

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Rio. I'd love to go to Rio there's a there's one in actual Rio well that there's there's one now um I mean I'd love to go to Brazil anyway yeah but like putting a Hyrox in there absolute chef's kiss brilliant one yeah it'd be lovely yeah I think Rio um big barrels I've seen that that is quite quite good.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Maybe like Sydney or something okay but then the Aussies are absolutely mental with Hyrux they're so fit I'd be like oh god too much for me all surface yeah honestly not me it's a fucking shame right two more quickfire questions who's your favourite character out of the Incredibles I remember all the names what's a baby called I can't remember well that's good isn't it I only know two characters that's gonna really annoy me what's a baby called I'll quickly google it um see if you ask me about minions then that a film that is by the way minions ask me who's my favourite from one time Jack Jack Pal.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

Jack Jack yeah Jack Jack Jack Jack's a vibe he's a vibe right last one what would you rather eat out of date coronation chicken or out of date Greek yogurt coronation chicken yeah actually it's not um done me as dirty as out of date Greek yogurt do you know what that when I was running today so the reason why my hair looks like this is because I've done a rainy run right before this by um so two days ago I ate out of date um Greek yogurt and um I'm still suffering a little bit now but actually it's quite good training for the ultra because my stomach is gonna go at some point anyway isn't it oh actually it's just it's just good training for a um for an ultra marathon because yeah even throwing up as well absolutely yeah right I've I've got two march I've just thought so when's your next high rocks roam roam marathon with my boy friend Will yay see this is going to be like a make or break isn't it in the relationship and I'm gonna be the worst one I think no I won't but we once again it's kind of like we're making a holiday out of it aren't we which is quite nice.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

That reminds me actually I must have deleted it by accident but I did write on here and it's not there anymore um oh no I did write on here uh after you've done a Hyrux what meal do you treat yourself to afterwards?

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Depends where I am um after Cardiff I had a nice um cinnamon bun that one of the girls made um and then I had a KFC nice and it really wasn't very nice at all but it was the only thing in the service stations on the way back. Um trying to think I had a pad thai in Warsaw that would be I think um just things that are salty I need salt I feel like I lose a lot of salt and so just things that are salty and that I've got like a set meal.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

I had Chinese food on the way back from Cardi.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

Yeah so when you do um Rome High Rock so when I did Rome marathon like oh it's gonna be pizza definitely but also have pistachio gelato and a peroni I'll have everything definitely it just depends where you are like if you're in Italy you'd be stupid not to have pizza pasta gelato peroni but then like in other I'm trying to think if you do it in place see I I thought I'd want pieroghi in in Walsh and I didn't I want I wanted pan thai when I was in Poland sprace your own color I have I have pieroggies yeah it's very good but I think I just needed a lot of salt I think it is just stuff that are very very salty which pizza is so right definitely uh so that's your next high rox rub in September um I know the answer to this question but when is your next ultra marathon's coming next Saturday hundred kilometres just a hundred yeah with much better weather this year when I say better weather it's gonna be raining but I will take that over the absolute horrific horrific heat last year.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

So explain to everyone what you did last year for the hundred and where it is this year.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

So last year I did a hundredk in peak district and it was like over 30 degrees and I got really bad heat stroke and almost died. It didn't hit me until afterwards though. Yeah but like it was just really hot and if you run and you run in really hot weather you'll know it's just awful isn't it yeah and there was not enough light fluids I could have taken on and then this one is in the North York Moors it's through the same organisation and just because it's so well organised like the eight stations are absolutely minted.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

Yeah and so it's a North York Moor so it's like half of it is um through the coast from Scarborough to Whitby and then it goes off into the actual moors um inland which is great so I think actually up until 12 pm it's meant to well the weather's probably going to change about a million times until then so don't quote me on this it's meant to be quite sunny which is nice through the coast and then the rain's meant to start a little bit whilst inland when you're in the second half yeah which is quite nice because that means that I'm also not going to get heat stroke always a bullet I will absolutely take I've just thought of another question actually because personally I'm really bad at like training for multiple disciplines at the same time so like if I've entered I'll train for that and nothing else yeah and if I've entered high rocks vice versa how do you because you seem to be really good at like training for combining the two sports with your training so how do you kind of go about that and how does how do you make it work for you I think as like my my my favourite thing to do is the ultra marathon so that will always like kind of be priority but I think as you know you still run it high rocks here it's a little bit faster well it can be a little bit faster but you still run so it kind of goes hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

Um I don't know really I feel like I to be fair like before war sort I think I only did like one or two high rock sessions a week and I've still managed to pull through and it's kind of trying to be smart with doing enough training but not overtraining. Yeah because you don't want to burn yourself out I don't know really I don't even know how I've done like one or two sessions a week and actually before war start I was panicking because I was like have I trained enough but I think when you've done a few you kind of it's more learning the race yeah and how to obviously if you then want to get better you would just focus on on high rocks you know and and make it make that training specific to high rocks and but because I'm doing it a very average you know pace and and and time or whatever I think it's not too bad and because I've done like a few now I kind of know how to go about these races now. And as much as Hyrox is hard ultra running is harder I think so I'd rather focus on them and they just they're they're more important to me than Hyrox is yeah um but also like I've only done one solo when you're doing a double you've kind of got that person to rely on because you split the stations however you want to um and at the end it's like an hour and a half of of your day isn't it so it's not not that awful. I don't know I don't actually mind training for two things at once. I think I just because I've I think I've been training for quite a long time you know quite a good few years like seven eight years I've got that kind of fitness level anyway.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:31

But I've still been doing like speed training and stuff and I've I have gotten a lot faster. Oh yes you have case on the treadmill I know absolute machine um but yeah I think I think just having like a base fitness level anyway because at the end of the day anyone could finish a high rocks really even if it took them four hours.

SPEAKER_03 58:54

Yeah do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 58:55

Like obviously if you get an injury or you know you're sick or whatever but like anyone could finish it at you know even if they've only just started you know training and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 59:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:08

Like yeah it would take you probably a lot longer than you know you want to but I think anyone could could do it really.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Um you know like it is quite cringe you know how they mark it oh it's a it's a spot for everyone but it really is you know you just take out your own pace you make it as hard as you you want it to be essentially exactly yeah perfect right I think we'll wrap it up there so thank you very much for your time and thank you for all of your insight. Thank you really appreciate it. Fantastic um yeah good luck for next weekend I'll need it you'll smash it it'll smash me it'll smash you but yeah it you'll wait not to walk yeah exactly so we'll get the wheelchair out for your week on Monday work and yeah you'll be like lined up yeah yeah can't can't wait to see that yeah obviously but yeah no seriously thank you very much really appreciate it hope you all enjoyed listening to it see ya in